She thought she was running away with that election and would win more decisively than Obama had against McCain.
This wasn't nuts, a lot of people thought the same thing after Access Hollywood, including Trump himself. He was visibly shaken and uncertain when he gave his victory speech.
I still think it was a disastrous choice to pick Hill…
She thought she was running away with that election and would win more decisively than Obama had against McCain.
This wasn't nuts, a lot of people thought the same thing after Access Hollywood, including Trump himself. He was visibly shaken and uncertain when he gave his victory speech.
I still think it was a disastrous choice to pick Hillary. Biden or even Bernie would have done better and won. But I do understand what she and her supporters were thinking in 2016. Whereas the Harris pitch is: Harris will lose and it will be your fault.
Why does everybody seem so sure Bernie would have won? I see zero evidence of that. His "revolutionary army" or whatever couldn't even be bothered to show up for him in the primaries - Hillary won those fair and square. He didn't even do particularly well. What makes people think he would have won a general?
For what it's worth, though, I'm also skeptical Biden would have won in 2016 too. It was too much of a "f*ck you" election, and the Obama backlash was just too great.
It was a really close election that she almost won. I sort of agree with the initial poster that she might have won it herself if she'd realized how close things were. (It isn't like she was being lazy, almost everybody except Sean Trende misunderstood this, on both sides.)
Trump would have been a uniquely well-suited opponent for Sanders because the sort of wealthy, educated swing voter who would pick Romney over Sanders would have been trapped in the Democratic coalition by hostility to Trump. At most they would have voted third party. I do agree that Bernie would have lost in 2020.
She thought she was running away with that election and would win more decisively than Obama had against McCain.
This wasn't nuts, a lot of people thought the same thing after Access Hollywood, including Trump himself. He was visibly shaken and uncertain when he gave his victory speech.
I still think it was a disastrous choice to pick Hillary. Biden or even Bernie would have done better and won. But I do understand what she and her supporters were thinking in 2016. Whereas the Harris pitch is: Harris will lose and it will be your fault.
Why does everybody seem so sure Bernie would have won? I see zero evidence of that. His "revolutionary army" or whatever couldn't even be bothered to show up for him in the primaries - Hillary won those fair and square. He didn't even do particularly well. What makes people think he would have won a general?
For what it's worth, though, I'm also skeptical Biden would have won in 2016 too. It was too much of a "f*ck you" election, and the Obama backlash was just too great.
It was a really close election that she almost won. I sort of agree with the initial poster that she might have won it herself if she'd realized how close things were. (It isn't like she was being lazy, almost everybody except Sean Trende misunderstood this, on both sides.)
Trump would have been a uniquely well-suited opponent for Sanders because the sort of wealthy, educated swing voter who would pick Romney over Sanders would have been trapped in the Democratic coalition by hostility to Trump. At most they would have voted third party. I do agree that Bernie would have lost in 2020.
Looking back at this from after the 2024 election, that last sentence was exceedingly prescient.