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> Put the whole order in at once. Incomplete orders are one of my big restaurant pet peeves. I hate them for the same reason most restaurants do — getting the order in all at once helps them pace your order correctly and avoid a long gap between service of appetizers and mains. It also saves the wait staff time. So when dining with a group, I do my best to enforce all-at-once ordering. It’s really in everybody’s best interest.

This is one of those times where you hear about a new concept or mode of behavior so legitimately shocking that you feel like you might have flipped a bit in the world simulation. Like when you find out that Alabamans call shopping carts "buggies".

I have never, in 10,000 years, ever heard of or remotely contemplated the notion of a table ordering the same part of the meal in multiple incomplete groups.

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I'm talking about ordering appetizers and then not ordering your entrees until the appetizers have been delivered, which is a thing I see people try to do with alarming frequency.

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I also prefer to order everything at once, but wait staffs often encourage this! They’ll ask if we want appetizers when ordering drinks (within minutes of sitting down)!

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Thank God. I can at least wrap my head around people behaving this way, even if it falls short of best practices.

(It is a very weird asterisk of modernity that I'm replying to you in a comment chain in the very instant as I am listening to Serious Trouble--I had to pause. It was just too weird.)

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This seems like it would be unsatisfying even to most of the diners who order this way.

But, basically every waiter initially asks for a drink order. Is it OK to order drinks first or should we be ready with the full order at that point.

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No, of course it's fine to order drinks first.

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Is it permissible to order a shared appetizer along with the drinks, so that it’s in progress while you’re perusing the rest of the menu? E.g., a plate of nachos or whatever.

That seems like normal behavior, whereas yes, everyone ordering an individual appetizer and then refusing to order entrees until they’ve all arrived seems like space-alien stuff.

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I don't think this is a best practice, but I've noticed waiters increasingly prompting diners to order in this way, which I guess must mean it's not a problem for their workflow. We did this the other day because one of our dining companions had gone to the wrong restaurant and was late. It happens.

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"Can I start you off with anything?" is something I hear not-uncommonly, which seems like a house invitation to do that.

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Drinks usually go to the bar and not the kitchen so it’s different

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> Like when you find out that Alabamans call shopping carts "buggies".

What.

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As I said below, and this confirms, this has a wider spread that just Alabama

> 5 also grocery buggy, shopping ~: A four-wheeled cart with a metal or plastic basket provided by a supermarket or other large store for customers to use while shopping. chiefly Sth, S Midl, OH, PA Cf carriage n 1

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In Brooklyn, I have seen grocery store signage referring to shopping carts as "wagons."

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My PA-bred grandparents also called shopping carts buggies, so I’m wondering if it’s a generational thing that Alabama just never gave up.

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Could be an Appalachian thing? - it's further in extent than one imagines.

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They were from Scranton, so not quite that part of PA.

They had some other weird idiolectical things that I always attributed to growing up bilingual with Russian. This is really the first one I've actually found out was a regional saying somewhere else!

edit: Sharty's link above confirms that's not just Alabama

> 5 also grocery buggy, shopping ~: A four-wheeled cart with a metal or plastic basket provided by a supermarket or other large store for customers to use while shopping. chiefly Sth, S Midl, OH, PA Cf carriage n 1

so there you go

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I wonder if it's linked with the geographic distribution of Piggly Wiggly, one of the very first self-serve grocery stores in the modern style.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piggly_Wiggly

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