I teach at Northwestern, not quite an Ivy but close. The idea that you'd get kicked out of Northwestern for this style of plagiarism is absolutely false. I've had students do things many many times worse, especially foreign (Chinese) students who have run some pretty massive cheating scandals. The administration's response is generally a…
I teach at Northwestern, not quite an Ivy but close. The idea that you'd get kicked out of Northwestern for this style of plagiarism is absolutely false. I've had students do things many many times worse, especially foreign (Chinese) students who have run some pretty massive cheating scandals. The administration's response is generally a slap on the hand, if that. I think the entire endeavor has become deeply unserious in the last decade or so.
I once sat on NYU's graduate admissions committee and one of my jobs was to interview foreign students seeking admission to the university via Skype. I was instructed that during the interview I was to surprise the student by informing them that I was going to ask them a question and they were to write the response back to me in the form of an essay - which they were to type, on screen, while I sat and watched them. I assumed this was an attempt to catch those who'd cheated on the TOEFL and more generally - to weed out those whose English skills were subpar.
idk, man. I teach at large state R1, and here, most first violations of academic honesty would result in a zero on the assignment, but the second time around is basically auto suspension.
I think it depends on a lot of factors but especially the program - I teach a class in marketing and that gets handled a lot differently than when I took classes in engineering, etc. I think grad vs undergrad is a big difference too. Also state vs private schools I think are different worlds right now.
I teach at Northwestern, not quite an Ivy but close. The idea that you'd get kicked out of Northwestern for this style of plagiarism is absolutely false. I've had students do things many many times worse, especially foreign (Chinese) students who have run some pretty massive cheating scandals. The administration's response is generally a slap on the hand, if that. I think the entire endeavor has become deeply unserious in the last decade or so.
I once sat on NYU's graduate admissions committee and one of my jobs was to interview foreign students seeking admission to the university via Skype. I was instructed that during the interview I was to surprise the student by informing them that I was going to ask them a question and they were to write the response back to me in the form of an essay - which they were to type, on screen, while I sat and watched them. I assumed this was an attempt to catch those who'd cheated on the TOEFL and more generally - to weed out those whose English skills were subpar.
idk, man. I teach at large state R1, and here, most first violations of academic honesty would result in a zero on the assignment, but the second time around is basically auto suspension.
I think it depends on a lot of factors but especially the program - I teach a class in marketing and that gets handled a lot differently than when I took classes in engineering, etc. I think grad vs undergrad is a big difference too. Also state vs private schools I think are different worlds right now.